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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: redrose vs MrZNF]
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CoPyright[
 Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2012
 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
 No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood.
 Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.
]
GN[redrose-MrZNF(B) IGS]RE[W+9.5]
PW[redrose]WR[3p ]NW[43]
PB[MrZNF]BR[4d?]NB[32]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2012-05-09]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
 redrose 3p : hi
 MrZNF 4d?: Hi, have a nice game
 redrose 3p : have a nice game
]
;B[pd]BL[3588]
;W[dp]WL[3597]C[
 MrZNF 4d?: oh, the komi is incorrect
]
;B[pq]BL[3534]
;W[dc]WL[3588]
;B[fq]BL[3526]
;W[cn]WL[3513]
;B[ip]BL[3513]
;W[qn]WL[3483]
;B[po]BL[3506]
;W[rp]WL[3474]
;B[pl]BL[3489]
;W[pn]WL[3458]
;B[on]BL[3486]
;W[om]WL[3394]
;B[nn]BL[3483]
;W[pm]WL[3372]
;B[ql]BL[3481]
;W[qq]WL[3364]
;B[pr]BL[3478]
;W[ol]WL[3248]
;B[pj]BL[3475]
;W[kq]WL[3229]
;B[jq]BL[3378]
;W[ko]WL[3208]
;B[jn]BL[3307]
;W[jr]WL[3173]
;B[ir]BL[3205]
;W[lm]WL[3071]C[
 Murugandi 17k?: cutting the two groups and going for a double attack seems crucial, but also difficult now
 Murugandi 17k?: looking from blacks perspective
 pancake 3d?: K3 might've been overplay already
 pancake 3d?: pincer was proper I think
 miao 6d?: no
 miao 6d?: k3 is standart
 Murugandi 17k?: yea k3 is standard normally
 Murugandi 17k?: but I agree with Michiel, maybe pincers looks better here
 miao 6d?: but b not too healthy atm
 miao 6d?: maybe k3 directly was not good enough
 miao 6d?: but pincer
 miao 6d?: no
 akuntay 2d?: M4 to peeeeeeep !
 pancake 3d?: m4 peep seems useless
 pancake 3d?: aji keshi even
 fakeyou 2d?: 1
 miao 6d?: n3 maybe now
 pancake 3d?: yeah just defend and leave white with the weaknesses seems best
 pancake 3d?: I'll be starting my own game now, cya
 Murugandi 17k?: good luck michiel
 Murugandi 17k?: !!
 Murugandi 17k?: if black is forced to play N3 I thinkit's a painful result
 miao 6d?: yes
 miao 6d?: but needed
 miao 6d?: maybe he can get sente
 miao 6d?: and cut still
 miao 6d?: because n3 is sente
 miao 6d?: still painful i admit
 miao 6d?: but before k3 black should attack r6
 miao 6d?: i think
 Murugandi 17k?: yea
 Murugandi 17k?: so what would you play in stead of k3? L5?
 Murugandi 17k?: looks weird too
 miao 6d?: no
 Murugandi 17k?: N3 still looks best to me
 Murugandi 17k?: bfore K3
 miao 6d?: r5 sequence
 Murugandi 17k?: ah ok :)
 miao 6d?: and o7 maybe
 miao 6d?: or only o7
 Murugandi 17k?: yes, I agree, that would be much better
 Murugandi 17k?: seperating the stones was crucial
 miao 6d?: only o7 is best
 miao 6d?: ^^
]
;B[mq]BL[2281]C[
 Murugandi 17k?: there is still a lot of cutting aji now, but it's a lot tougher
 miao 6d?: yes
]
;W[jp]WL[3041]
;B[iq]BL[2278]C[
 miao 6d?: hm
 Murugandi 17k?: that's locally a nice exchange for black
 miao 6d?: yes
 miao 6d?: but w needed it to attack sevearly
 miao 6d?: still wrong timing
 miao 6d?: think
]
;W[kn]WL[2981]C[
 akuntay 2d?: you see? white get afraid of my m4 peep and defnd
 Murugandi 3d?: :)
 Murugandi 3d?: black wants to play K7 and N8 at the same time
 Murugandi 3d?: ...
 akuntay 2d?: black has to play both K7 and N8 . its not good
 Murugandi 3d?: : D
 akuntay 2d?: oh murugandi you stole my  special comment :(
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
]
;B[jm]BL[2127]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: sorry man, you deserve the credits
 akuntay 2d?: baaaa :(
 miao 6d?: i think black had to cut
]
;W[lr]WL[2888]C[
 miao 6d?: n8 enough
 miao 6d?: ..
 akuntay 2d?: ... :S
 miao 6d?: did you see ilya vs sveta?
 miao 6d?: at the egc?
 Murugandi 3d?: no didn't see it
 Murugandi 3d?: how was the game?
 fakeyou 2d?: 3 strong kibitzers here
 miao 6d?: well sveta died in 70 moves and resigned
 miao 6d?: not even dangerous for ilya
 miao 6d?: :)
]
;B[op]BL[1846]C[
 miao 6d?: huh
 miao 6d?: what is this?
 akuntay 2d?: heeeee ? what was that? is he afraid ?
 akuntay 2d?: hummm -_-"
 laic 2k?: its easy to sit here and chat ..
 fakeyou 2d?: p10?
]
;W[ml]WL[2709]C[
 akuntay 2d?: time to tenuki
 malf 4k : looks like time to resign
]
;B[mj]BL[1710]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: time to resign? no way :) so many chances for both players still
 miao 6d?: i am so sleepy
 Murugandi 3d?: the opening might be a little bit better for white, but there is absolutely no reason for resigning
 miao 6d?: couldn??t sleep more than 3 hours
 miao 6d?: -.-
 Murugandi 3d?: haha jesus man
 Murugandi 3d?: your game starts in 10 minutes right?
 miao 6d?: but ill manage
]
;W[mo]WL[2642]C[
 miao 6d?: yeah
 Murugandi 3d?: give it your best
 miao 6d?: i will
 miao 6d?: ^^
 miao 6d?: at least i will try
 Murugandi 3d?: cool
 fakeyou 2d?: good black, dead black
 zima 1d?: omnomnom
 miao 6d?: maybe ill get bologhenizsed
 miao 6d?: not dead yet
 fakeyou 2d?: sorry, bad joke. that was no racism
 fakeyou 2d?: r5 there might be one of miao :)
 miao 6d?: ^^
]
;B[mn]BL[1558]C[
 miao 6d?: uh
 miao 6d?: i cannot agree with this
 miao 6d?: ...
 striepko 4d : who is Mr.Znf?
 herminator 4d?: Zeno van Ditzhuijzen
 miao 6d?: zeno
 striepko 4d : 3d?
 herminator 4d?: 5d
 striepko 4d : or which rank?
 miao 6d?: b trying to kill a wall with cheese
 miao 6d?: :P
 Murugandi 3d?: Dutch cheese is very powerful
 striepko 4d : 5d???
 akuntay 2d?: maybe he wanted to cut white ?
 miao 6d?: with half dead cheese
 Murugandi 3d?: be careful what you say
 miao 6d?: haha
 zima 1d?: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/rounds/41
 herminator 4d?: http://europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=12698972
]
;W[oj]WL[2482]C[
 striepko 4d : 60 min?
 striepko 4d : white has only 24 min
 baldur 5d : they started an hour ago
 herminator 4d?: they've been playing for an hour already
 akuntay 2d?: COUNTER ATTACK !
]
;B[nk]BL[1458]C[
 striepko 4d : 35 min for 23 moves
 fakeyou 2d?: w00t
 miao 6d?: dutch cheese gone kamikaze
 akuntay 2d?: ITS P9. no way
 fakeyou 2d?: if w will not p9, im will laugh
 Murugandi 3d?: yea p9 seems to be the only move
]
;W[nl]WL[2215]
;B[ok]BL[1455]
;W[mp]WL[2209]
;B[qo]BL[1423]C[
 herminator 4d?: R5 etc?
]
;W[ro]WL[2204]C[
 akuntay 2d?: ok. i m going to die now
]
;B[qp]BL[1413]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: wow
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
 miao 6d?: lol
 fakeyou 2d?: huh
 Murugandi 3d?: this is pretty weird
 miao 6d?: sveta makes it possible
 fakeyou 2d?: easy game for b now
 miao 6d?: :P
 Murugandi 3d?: if black doesn't die, it's a brilliant result for him
 pilgrim 2d+: b is alive
 miao 6d?: w cheesed herselve
 herminator 4d?: yeah, I don't see how this could possibly die anymore
 Murugandi 3d?: told ya, it's the dutch cheese
 Murugandi 3d?: so strong
 fakeyou 2d?: n10 was super smart?
 Murugandi 3d?: even the smell confuses shikshina
 herminator 4d?: now P10 is terrible mochikomi
 pilgrim 2d+: if o3 b has s3 and o2
 pilgrim 2d+: b alive anyway
]
;W[nq]WL[2057]C[
 pilgrim 2d+: s3 first now
 fakeyou 2d?: s3 s2?
 Murugandi 3d?: but then black takes
 Murugandi 3d?: and it's an easy eye, right?
 pilgrim 2d+: if w s2 then r2 w t3 then b o2
 fakeyou 2d?: there s6 aji
 Murugandi 3d?: after o2
 herminator 4d?: o2 first?
 fakeyou 2d?: alive
 pilgrim 2d+: I think s3 first
 pilgrim 2d+: but anyway probably the same result
 fakeyou 2d?: s3 s2 t3 r2 s6 dont work?
 ajeczka 1k?: is black alive?
 fakeyou 2d?: ok, just o2 first
]
;B[rq]BL[1211]
;W[rr]WL[2050]
;B[qr]BL[1199]
;W[sq]WL[2049]C[
 pilgrim 2d+: exactly my sequence
 pilgrim 2d+: o2 now
]
;B[nr]BL[1175]
;W[mr]WL[2021]C[
 pilgrim 2d+: w can capture 3 stones
 herminator 4d?: is white even 100% alive?
 pilgrim 2d+: yes :)
]
;B[ns]BL[1118]C[
 herminator 4d?: what with M6, M5, K1 sente?
 herminator 4d?: won't die, but might be vulnerable to ko threats later in the game
 gh0st 1k : <3 ZNF
]
;W[oq]WL[1916]C[
 MaLa 3d?: so, will we read another article how the dutch team cheated sveta in the first corner?
 Murugandi 3d?: anything wrong with just O4?
 pilgrim 2d+: don't understand w...wasting ko threats
 herminator 4d?: O4 seems fine
]
;B[np]BL[1042]
;W[no]WL[1902]
;B[oo]BL[1037]
;W[lq]WL[1897]C[
 fakeyou 2d?: better ti think about tenuki
]
;B[or]BL[1031]
;W[qq]WL[1838]C[
 CuChulainn 4k?: ko for life of the group now
 fakeyou 2d?: just o17?
 striepko 4d : ????
 fakeyou 2d?: no ko
 herminator 4d?: n3 lives
 striepko 4d : strange game
]
;B[mq]BL[1001]
;W[nc]WL[1835]C[
 fakeyou 2d?: just o17* ?
 fakeyou 2d?: ok
]
;B[rm]BL[804]
;W[rn]WL[1832]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: gogo znf !
 Murugandi 3d?: with white getting O17 in sente it's not that bad of a result for Shikshina actually
 Murugandi 3d?: but still, go Zeno!
 Murugandi 3d?: (it's your birthday, we're gonna party like it's your birthday)
 Wagaboo 9k?: she is shikshina ?!
 Murugandi 3d?: yes
 Wagaboo 9k?: u_U please znf don't lose too badly
 Wagaboo 9k?: haha
 Murugandi 3d?: he's not going to lose at all
 Murugandi 3d?: :)
 Wagaboo 9k?: but shikshina is pro  ??-??
 Wagaboo 9k?: well znf is very strong
 Murugandi 3d?: the dutch eat pros for breakfast, or in this case dinner
 miao 6d?: haha
 Wagaboo 9k?: breakfast isn't dutch :p
 malf 4k : :)
 gh0st 1k : Maybe time problems later?
 fakeyou 2d?: sure
]
;B[kd]BL[524]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: looks hard for w in the top right
 Murugandi 3d?: funky pincer
 Wagaboo 9k?: i would have pincedat m16
]
;W[qc]WL[1630]
;B[qd]BL[521]
;W[pc]WL[1629]
;B[od]BL[521]
;W[nd]WL[1617]
;B[oc]BL[422]
;W[ob]WL[1614]
;B[pb]BL[421]
;W[qb]WL[1612]
;B[nb]BL[421]
;W[pa]WL[1611]
;B[ne]BL[421]
;W[me]WL[1606]
;B[md]BL[402]
;W[mc]WL[1603]
;B[mb]BL[398]
;W[lc]WL[1601]
;B[ld]BL[389]
;W[kb]WL[1598]
;B[of]BL[301]C[
 akuntay 2d?: isnt ladder good for white? am i missed something?
]
;W[eq]WL[1548]C[
 herminator 4d?: which ladder?
 akuntay 2d?: where white plays m17
]
;B[fp]BL[172]
;W[dk]WL[1497]
;B[rq]BL[162]C[
 herminator 4d?: terrible squeeze
]
;W[ln]WL[1466]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: time for c14?
 herminator 4d?: something on the left, anyway
]
;B[ic]BL[37]
;W[lb]WL[1426]
;B[de]BL[597]
;W[jd]WL[1375]
;B[jc]BL[531]
;W[kc]WL[1371]
;B[mf]BL[525]
;W[je]WL[1365]
;B[kf]BL[523]
;W[ee]WL[1283]C[
 akuntay 2d?: looks like its hard for white -_-"
]
;B[ef]BL[493]
;W[ed]WL[1276]C[
 Haning 6k+: I don't understand the ko at S3. How much is it worth?
 herminator 4d?: white's group is not 100% alive
 Haning 6k+: Thank you
 herminator 4d?: with M4 and N1/K1 black can reduce to one eye
 herminator 4d?: the the corner is an eye only in ko
]
;B[df]BL[406]
;W[hd]WL[1251]
;B[gf]BL[384]
;W[jf]WL[1246]
;B[jg]BL[365]
;W[ig]WL[1238]
;B[jh]BL[357]
;W[kg]WL[1212]
;B[lf]BL[354]
;W[ih]WL[1209]
;B[ji]BL[333]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: no
]
;W[ii]WL[1146]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: there is the ko s3
]
;B[jj]BL[331]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: so it's double ko for the 2nd eye no?
 Murugandi 3d?: how
 Murugandi 3d?: is zeno doing on territory?
 Murugandi 3d?: hm looks a bit better for white, but that don't mean nothin!
 Murugandi 3d?: (appreciate the way I raped that sentence)
 Wagaboo 9k?: yes the left is unsettled
 Wagaboo 9k?: but w has sente :'(
]
;W[qq]WL[943]C[
 akuntay 2d?: even i cant win -_-"
 insondable 6k : ? black no need to answer? D11?
]
;B[he]BL[208]
;W[ie]WL[927]
;B[gd]BL[165]
;W[hc]WL[923]
;B[gc]BL[131]
;W[hb]WL[921]
;B[hg]BL[122]
;W[ij]WL[907]
;B[gb]BL[105]
;W[cd]WL[891]
;B[be]BL[87]
;W[bd]WL[884]
;B[ci]BL[86]
;W[bj]WL[868]
;B[rq]BL[80]
;W[jk]WL[848]
;B[kk]BL[74]
;W[qq]WL[844]
;B[lp]BL[43]
;W[nq]WL[838]
;B[rq]BL[39]
;W[js]WL[832]
;B[jo]BL[30]
;W[kp]WL[831]
;B[eb]BL[22]
;W[ce]WL[813]
;B[bf]BL[534]
;W[cf]WL[781]
;B[cg]BL[532]
;W[dg]WL[780]
;B[eg]BL[492]
;W[bg]WL[776]
;B[ch]BL[490]
;W[ae]WL[765]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: time for something around C3?
 Murugandi 3d?: black needs to force something right?
]
;B[cb]BL[397]
;W[bb]WL[740]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: D18 sente?
 Murugandi 3d?: if first B12
]
;B[do]BL[295]
;W[co]WL[736]
;B[cq]BL[291]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: with the ladders in place, how much good does black D5 do now?
]
;W[dq]WL[678]
;B[cp]BL[288]
;W[cr]WL[667]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: I don't know these variations well enough
]
;B[br]BL[281]
;W[dr]WL[665]
;B[bp]BL[276]
;W[aq]WL[587]
;B[dn]BL[274]
;W[bo]WL[560]
;B[cm]BL[266]C[
 striepko 4d : ?????
 striepko 4d : what??s up with white?
 striepko 4d : white is redrose?
 Murugandi 3d?: isnt this some sort of standard sequence? I've seen it before
]
;W[bq]WL[474]
;B[bn]BL[265]
;W[ap]WL[473]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: black gets outside
]
;B[dm]BL[255]C[
 miao 6d?: black looking for ko
]
;W[ei]WL[452]
;B[eh]BL[220]
;W[bl]WL[436]
;B[bh]BL[203]
;W[af]WL[434]
;B[bm]BL[199]
;W[fi]WL[423]
;B[db]BL[182]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: b looks ahead Oo
 miao 6d?: in my eyes black is ahead too
 Murugandi 3d?: sente sente
]
;W[kl]WL[381]C[
 miao 6d?: c17 is extremly big
 Murugandi 3d?: yea
]
;B[jl]BL[127]C[
 miao 6d?: opens the gates for j14
]
;W[ik]WL[377]C[
 miao 6d?: maybe
 miao 6d?: :)
 Murugandi 3d?: can black play tenuki?
]
;B[lk]BL[115]C[
 miao 6d?: not yet
 Murugandi 3d?: hm
]
;W[hn]WL[355]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: ouch :(
 miao 6d?: counterattack
 miao 6d?: somehow
 miao 6d?: :)
 Murugandi 3d?: H7 ?
 miao 6d?: yes
 miao 6d?: but take care of d6
]
;B[hm]BL[80]C[
 herminator 4d?: M8?
 Murugandi 3d?: I didnt calculate it, but on first sight H7 looks promosing for black
 miao 6d?: this might be a good move by white
]
;W[gm]WL[348]
;B[hl]BL[70]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: F6 is annoying shape problem for B
]
;W[fn]WL[330]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: both side in trouble suddenly
]
;B[ll]BL[54]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: unless black can capture white
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
 Murugandi 3d?: oh nice sente hehe
 miao 6d?: if w defends n7 then g9 becomes annoying
 Nijawara 4d : just sacrifice
]
;W[gl]WL[215]C[
 miao 6d?: wtf
 ajeczka 1k?: :o
 herminator 4d?: exchange
 Nijawara 4d : m8 small
 miao 6d?: n7 huge
]
;B[io]BL[24]C[
 miao 6d?: oh
 miao 6d?: w canlaunch whole group attack
]
;W[eo]WL[183]
;B[mm]BL[18]
;W[km]WL[180]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: ok now J2 needs to live
 Murugandi 3d?: looks very tough
 baldur 5d : no eyes
]
;B[go]BL[516]
;W[gn]WL[171]
;B[gr]BL[480]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: i see b dead
 Wagaboo 9k?: ah no maybe ko
 Wagaboo 9k?: ??-??
 Murugandi 3d?: K18 aji interesting
]
;W[fs]WL[51]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: but if G2 dies it doesn't matter anymore
 MaLa 3d?: that just happened
 Murugandi 3d?: :'(
 Murugandi 3d?: I think K17 can connect to G18
 miao 6d?: yes
 Murugandi 3d?: :)
 Murugandi 3d?: such a pity the last couple of black moves
]
;B[ek]BL[351]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: white H6 changed everything
 herminator 4d?: if J5 at H5, would it have lived with f2?
]
;W[di]WL[21]C[
 miao 6d?: told you to pay a bit more attention
 miao 6d?: ^^
 miao 6d?: h9!
 miao 6d?: chance
]
;B[gk]BL[305]
;W[el]WL[11]
;B[gi]BL[268]C[
 miao 6d?: does b read?
 Fede 1k : this? no
 MrZNF 4d?: .
 miao 6d?: he should
 miao 6d?: <<
]
;W[gh]WL[556]C[
 MaLa 3d?: maybe he is busy kibitzing in miaos game
 miao 6d?: :P
 Fede 1k : but aren't you playing, right now? :D
 miao 6d?: i will check
 miao 6d?: after
]
;B[dj]BL[162]
;W[fk]WL[524]C[
 miao 6d?: i am
]
;B[ck]BL[148]
;W[dl]WL[454]
;B[cl]BL[115]
;W[cj]WL[447]
;B[aj]BL[113]
;W[bk]WL[431]C[
 herminator 4d?: nice move :)
 Nijawara 4d : not really
]
;B[dh]BL[92]C[
 herminator 4d?: doesn't help, but nice move nonetheless
 fj 8d : B all dead except right side
 Murugandi 3d?: G18 is alive :)
 Murugandi 3d?: isnt it?
 Murugandi 3d?: hm with F15 peep not maybe
]
;W[id]WL[392]C[
 herminator 4d?: F15 looks nasty
 fj 8d : ah... cause D16
 Murugandi 3d?: yea
 Murugandi 3d?: I forgot about that too
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
]
;B[al]BL[74]C[
 herminator 4d?: Oh, F15 doesn''t work
]
;W[ej]WL[388]
;B[bi]BL[71]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: : D
 herminator 4d?: that's big
 striepko 4d : ?????
]
;W[cc]WL[362]
;B[ec]BL[65]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: I think she missed that
]
;W[dd]WL[358]
;B[hh]BL[62]C[
 herminator 4d?: what a game
]
;W[gj]WL[319]
;B[ba]BL[59]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: too bad my k18 aji is gone
 Murugandi 3d?: but hey
]
;W[ab]WL[304]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: B7 is a good way to make up for it
 Murugandi 3d?: hahaha
 striepko 4d : I dont understand white game
]
;B[rc]BL[48]
;W[rb]WL[303]
;B[rd]BL[48]C[
 herminator 4d?: suddenly, endgame
]
;W[fe]WL[285]C[
 striepko 4d : ah i see
]
;B[ge]BL[47]
;W[hi]WL[283]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: maybe w is trying to win with 0.5
]
;B[gg]BL[46]C[
 striepko 4d : f15
 striepko 4d : and over
]
;W[kj]WL[267]C[
 striepko 4d : oh no
]
;B[ki]BL[30]C[
 herminator 4d?: 30s for 5 moves
 Wagaboo 9k?: urgh :(
 ajeczka 1k?: go zeno!
]
;W[sc]WL[232]
;B[sd]BL[29]
;W[sb]WL[231]
;B[ak]BL[28]
;W[dj]WL[229]
;B[ho]BL[26]C[
 ajeczka 1k?: haha nice
]
;W[hq]WL[212]
;B[ms]BL[26]
;W[ls]WL[211]
;B[fh]BL[21]
;W[ff]WL[203]
;B[gi]BL[599]C[
 ajeczka 1k?: he seems to be perfectly aware of his situation with time :)
 Wagaboo 9k?: why this ko ?
]
;W[li]WL[190]C[
 MaLa 3d?: taking one is no mistake
]
;B[lj]BL[596]
;W[gh]WL[189]C[
 MaLa 3d?: once
 MaLa 3d?: now connect
 MaLa 3d?: you let you opponent burn a kothreat and then connect
 Murugandi 3d?: in fact, not taking a ko when you can is a mistake
 MaLa 3d?: *your
 Murugandi 3d?: exactly
]
;B[fg]BL[497]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: sigh
]
;W[ke]WL[170]
;B[le]BL[496]
;W[if]WL[170]
;B[em]BL[492]
;W[fm]WL[594]
;B[fd]BL[474]
;W[ga]WL[576]
;B[fa]BL[472]
;W[ha]WL[575]
;B[gi]BL[465]
;W[en]WL[572]
;B[am]BL[461]
;W[gh]WL[569]
;B[ai]BL[452]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: isn't h9 bigger than the ko ?
]
;W[ag]WL[561]
;B[gi]BL[451]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: oh sorry
 MaLa 3d?: h9 -1 pt
]
;W[fb]WL[552]C[
 Wagaboo 9k?: i'm tired
 Wagaboo 9k?: :(
]
;B[fc]BL[448]
;W[gh]WL[550]
;B[jb]BL[444]
;W[ja]WL[541]
;B[gi]BL[444]
;W[kh]WL[534]C[
 striepko 4d : white has won by 7
]
;B[kj]BL[443]
;W[gh]WL[534]
;B[la]BL[436]
;W[ib]WL[532]
;B[gi]BL[436]C[
 miao 6d?: translation of ko means small
]
;W[ca]WL[530]
;B[da]BL[434]
;W[gh]WL[530]
;B[oa]BL[434]
;W[na]WL[528]
;B[gi]BL[432]C[
 MaLa 3d?: p3
 MaLa 3d?: and n3
 herminator 4d?: no, that's another word which is also pronounced ko
 MaLa 3d?: are double threats...
 Murugandi 3d?: E1 is a cool threat
]
;W[nj]WL[497]
;B[mk]BL[423]
;W[gh]WL[496]
;B[oq]BL[422]
;W[mq]WL[494]
;B[gi]BL[422]
;W[pk]WL[485]
;B[qk]BL[421]
;W[gh]WL[484]
;B[il]BL[421]
;W[in]WL[482]
;B[gi]BL[600]
;W[mi]WL[479]
;B[pk]BL[598]
;W[gh]WL[479]
;B[er]BL[595]
;W[es]WL[463]
;B[gi]BL[594]
;W[qq]WL[444]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: can black ignore? that would be sick
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
 Murugandi 3d?: if he is sure he has enough threats..
 pancake 3d?: hahaha
 MaLa 3d?: no gain in ignoring
 Murugandi 3d?: ?
]
;B[gh]BL[513]C[
 pancake 3d?: possible point ;)
 MaLa 3d?: he needs 2 moves after for 2 white moves
 pancake 3d?: hahaha
 Murugandi 3d?: of course there is a gain
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
 ajeczka 1k?: muru you gave us some stressful time yesterday with your ko at the end too ;o
 pancake 3d?: COME ON
 ajeczka 1k?: woooot
 Murugandi 3d?: sick
 Murugandi 3d?: I love it
 Wagaboo 9k?: wooohooo
]
;W[rs]WL[576]
;B[rq]BL[512]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: I think I want an autograph
 ajeczka 1k?: <fall from chair>
 Murugandi 3d?: hahaha
]
;W[rl]WL[553]C[
 MaLa 3d?: its 2 for 2 moves... so no gain from ignoing, and he will win this ko as he would have won the other ko
 pancake 3d?: is it even close?
 MaLa 3d?: so... no, there is no gain
]
;B[qm]BL[500]
;W[qq]WL[551]
;B[sn]BL[500]C[
 pancake 3d?: mala, he takes first
 Wagaboo 9k?: i'm lazy to count the score
]
;W[so]WL[544]
;B[rq]BL[500]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: white played a move in blacks territory and then has to play another
 MaLa 3d?: he would have won the ko anyway
 pancake 3d?: plus white wasted a move there
 Murugandi 3d?: if black wins the ko, that earns 1 point
 MaLa 3d?: and its an even number of moves for both
 Murugandi 3d?: right?
 pancake 3d?: so 1 point gain anyway
 MaLa 3d?: no muru
 MaLa 3d?: cuz he has to connect it
 Murugandi 3d?: 8-)
 MaLa 3d?: ...
]
;W[aa]WL[514]
;B[qq]BL[498]
;W[ca]WL[512]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: but then it's the G12 point
]
;B[bc]BL[496]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: right?
 Murugandi 3d?: haha
 pancake 3d?: haha nice
]
;W[ac]WL[510]
;B[ba]BL[496]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: I'm confused
 MaLa 3d?: but g12 was his point anyway
 MaLa 3d?: since he had way more kothreats
 MaLa 3d?: ...
 Murugandi 3d?: ah
 Murugandi 3d?: ok
]
;W[ao]WL[488]C[
 MaLa 3d?: so it may look cool
]
;B[ca]BL[494]C[
 MaLa 3d?: but didnt gain anything
]
;W[an]WL[482]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: yea you might be right there
]
;B[hk]BL[492]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: :)
 Murugandi 3d?: strong!
 pancake 3d?: haha wtf zeno
 Wagaboo 9k?: b try to trick w
]
;W[hj]WL[457]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: please ignore this
]
;B[hf]BL[490]C[
 Murugandi 3d?: hahaha
]
;W[ah]WL[451]
;B[tt]BL[477]C[
 DagOban 11k?: i don't understand A6
]
;W[tt]WL[447]
;B[tt]BL[477]C[
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ O18
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ S8
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ M19
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ S6
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ K8
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ S2
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ T3
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ F4
 pancake 3d?: a6 pro move
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ P10
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ G2
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ N11
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ E2
 MrZNF 4d?: MrZNF dead @ L12
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ B2
 redrose 3p : redrose dead @ M4
 redrose done
];

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