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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: Cornel vs flashback]
US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]
CoPyright[
 Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2012
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 Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.
]
GN[Cornel-flashback(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign]
PW[Cornel]WR[9d ]NW[37]
PB[flashback]BR[7d ]NB[35]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2012-03-13]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
 Cornel 9d : Hi, have fun bro:)
 flashback 7d : gg
]
;B[pd]BL[3577]
;W[dc]WL[3582]
;B[pp]BL[3569]
;W[dp]WL[3536]
;B[de]BL[3565]
;W[cg]WL[3452]
;B[cc]BL[3551]
;W[gc]WL[3415]
;B[dd]BL[3518]
;W[db]WL[3410]
;B[be]BL[3476]
;W[cj]WL[3407]
;B[cb]BL[3472]
;W[jc]WL[3406]
;B[fq]BL[3443]
;W[hq]WL[3365]
;B[fo]BL[3358]
;W[dn]WL[3362]
;B[ip]BL[3357]
;W[hp]WL[3292]
;B[ho]BL[3353]
;W[iq]WL[3289]
;B[jp]BL[3350]
;W[jq]WL[3287]
;B[kp]BL[3350]
;W[lq]WL[3286]
;B[mo]BL[3349]
;W[qj]WL[3224]
;B[nq]BL[3237]
;W[go]WL[3139]
;B[gn]BL[3197]
;W[gp]WL[3133]C[
 Sur 11k+: P?a se mi teda vec nel?
 Laman 13k : mizerni klienti, zrus prosim diakritiku
 Laman 13k : i kdyz samozrejme rozumim
 pilgrim 2d+: that is very polite, u know?
 Laman 13k : ah, there are even foreign observers :)
 Laman 13k : basically i was blaming bad client support for diacritics
 Laman 13k : and before that Sur said that he doesnt like black's position
 ljkramer 16k : I and many others
 ljkramer 16k : don't understand many languages
 LeT 2d : I cant understand how someone can blame anyone for not using english
 Mithrandir 17k+: They said: Write to me, then do not like the crappy clients Cancel Please accents
 Mithrandir 17k+: although of course i understand
 Laman 13k : great. often in PGETC i see only Czehcs talking
 pilgrim 2d+: I didn't blame...I suggested that using a language that is not common to most people in a game where the reprezentatives of 2 countries meet is not polite
 Sur 11k+: 9d attracts some attention :-)
 Sur 11k+: well, it was adressed to czech players
 pilgrim 2d+: romanians could too start talking in romanian
 Laman 13k : LeT: it is true that if there were Romanian fans talking, i would prefer them to do so in English as well
 Mithrandir 17k+: You can use google translate.
 LeT 2d : pilgrim that is fully ok
 pilgrim 2d+: no, it is not :)
 pilgrim 2d+: it's impolite
 LeT 2d : its natural :-)
 Mithrandir 17k+: English is used by Australia, India, New Zealand, USA, Uk, and is most widely know, most logical way to communicaate internationally.
 Laman 13k : but another fact is that usually it feels like no one else is out there, so it doesn't matter which language we use
 Sur 11k+: well, I find trash talking instead of commenting the game impolite
 LeT 2d : they just think
 Laman 13k : flashback taking long for this move
 LeT 2d : so why not to digress a little
]
;B[hn]BL[2580]
;W[fp]WL[3131]
;B[ql]BL[2575]C[
 LeT 2d : but Pilgrim I agree its annoying
]
;W[qg]WL[3061]C[
 pilgrim 2d+: thanks
]
;B[qe]BL[2537]
;W[oj]WL[3046]
;B[mc]BL[2460]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: Seems like B should spread from UR
 Mithrandir 17k+: Yep.
]
;W[qn]WL[3020]
;B[qo]BL[2396]
;W[pn]WL[2996]
;B[ol]BL[2386]
;W[op]WL[2923]
;B[oq]BL[2375]
;W[qq]WL[2918]
;B[qp]BL[2371]
;W[rn]WL[2807]
;B[pk]BL[2266]
;W[pq]WL[2789]C[
 bteuber 6d?: I don't see how this should help white
]
;B[rq]BL[2226]
;W[rr]WL[2781]
;B[rp]BL[2220]C[
 bteuber 6d?: just living with half the corner seems too small now
]
;W[np]WL[2761]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: He might try and pass under the O3 group
]
;B[mp]BL[2176]
;W[nn]WL[2756]
;B[or]BL[2165]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: White escaped.
 ljkramer 16k : Does W kill s3
]
;W[qr]WL[2721]
;B[sr]BL[2162]
;W[mq]WL[2702]C[
 badman 3k+: b has corner
]
;B[pr]BL[2151]C[
 badman 3k+: imo
]
;W[mn]WL[2698]C[
 bteuber 6d?: ok maybe w can play this fight, but I still prefer black I guess
 ljkramer 16k : q5?
]
;B[kn]BL[1980]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: for w?
 ljkramer 16k : Yes
 pilgrim 2d+: q5 is very bad shape for both of them
 ljkramer 16k : sente, force B to kill r2
 pilgrim 2d+: not sente
 Mithrandir 17k+: He can afford two moves before he has to respong in the corner/
 pilgrim 2d+: b remains with 3 libs and w only 2
]
;W[ml]WL[2597]
;B[pj]BL[1968]
;W[pi]WL[2595]C[
 bteuber 6d?: tricky question
 bteuber 6d?: but no, in this case not sente, but only because of L3 aji
 bteuber 6d?: so against Q5 black answers with N2
]
;B[qi]BL[1873]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: Or just closes upthe white group that just got out. Then when he has two libs left, he goes ikills the corner
 LeT 2d : q12
 pilgrim 2d+: why would b answer if w plays q5?
 bteuber 6d?: W s1, B Q1, W O2, B N2, W S5
 pilgrim 2d+: yeah
 pilgrim 2d+: ty
 pilgrim 2d+: didn't see o2
]
;W[ri]WL[2421]
;B[oi]BL[1865]
;W[ph]WL[2418]
;B[nj]BL[1859]
;W[rk]WL[2416]C[
 LeT 2d : C3
]
;B[rl]BL[1824]
;W[km]WL[2409]C[
 badman 3k+: y tks missed that
]
;B[jm]BL[1795]
;W[kl]WL[2405]C[
 bteuber 6d?: interesting development
 bteuber 6d?: never underestimate master cornel ^^
 badman 3k+: s6 hard move to play
 badman 3k+: would've thought w creating heavy group even if escaped.
]
;B[jl]BL[1684]
;W[ln]WL[2400]
;B[jj]BL[1557]
;W[ko]WL[2391]
;B[lp]BL[1555]
;W[jn]WL[2387]
;B[in]BL[1552]
;W[jk]WL[2385]
;B[ik]BL[1548]
;W[kk]WL[2385]
;B[ij]BL[1529]
;W[li]WL[2334]C[
 ljkramer 16k : ajiof p10 interesting
 LeT 2d : b aiming to attack left side?
]
;B[oh]BL[1434]
;W[og]WL[2330]
;B[mh]BL[1432]C[
 Laman 13k : he should do something. seems a bit behind in terms of territory to my eyes
 LeT 2d : if w gets e3..
 Laman 13k : yes, lower left very big and very opened
 ljkramer 16k : 1 more W stone on left side would make that very hard
 Laman 13k : but when to play there...
 ljkramer 16k : and if W can play it in sente, tough problem for B
]
;W[lh]WL[2168]C[
 Laman 13k : its one of the higher level problems... you know you need to play there, the opponent knows that too, you know that he know... but how to time it perfectly?
]
;B[ng]BL[1344]C[
 ljkramer 16k : This makes high dan tournaments so beatiful to watch.
]
;W[of]WL[2083]
;B[me]BL[1299]
;W[gk]WL[2026]C[
 ljkramer 16k : WOW!
]
;B[hl]BL[1149]
;W[jh]WL[1967]C[
 Laman 13k : now?
 Lukan 5d?: hmm, difficult for black :(
]
;B[ek]BL[915]C[
 ljkramer 16k : d8?
 ljkramer 16k : or c8?
 LeT 2d : d8 and let him grab the one stone
 justarrow 6d?: C7
 ljkramer 16k : why?
]
;W[dl]WL[1795]C[
 justarrow 6d?: like this C3 still aji
 Lukan 5d?: b probably must play C3 immediately
 Laman 13k : and would C7 be good enough to eliminate it?
 justarrow 6d?: maybe not, white will not play there after D8 :)
 weaker 6d?: c3 now true
 ljkramer 16k : B needs sente invasion, does not want to lose e9
 ljkramer 16k : W can afford to let B save c3 in gote, while building huge moyo in sente
]
;B[hh]BL[601]
;W[hg]WL[1742]
;B[gg]BL[585]C[
 justarrow 6d?: ugly moves by both, white coudl have played G11
]
;W[ig]WL[1726]C[
 ljkramer 16k : This is way too hard a fight for me to read.
 ljkramer 16k : I'm only a kyu
 LeT 2d : they keep adding stones to almost living groups
 justarrow 6d?: C3 last chance for black
 ljkramer 16k : There are many places where a few stones could be killed, but none look large enough to attack yet.
]
;B[di]BL[362]
;W[ci]WL[1685]
;B[cq]BL[354]C[
 justarrow 6d?: E2
 pilgrim 2d+: here we go
 LeT 2d : last minute trip
]
;W[dq]WL[1625]C[
 ljkramer 16k : yes, W can afford to let c3 live in gote.
 LeT 2d : b4?
]
;B[dr]BL[270]C[
 ljkramer 16k : now W e2?
]
;W[cp]WL[1581]C[
 fulgrim 1d : D2 wrong
]
;B[br]BL[245]
;W[bq]WL[1579]
;B[cr]BL[242]C[
 scurge10 4d?: gogo pixla
]
;W[gh]WL[1566]C[
 justarrow 6d?: hsrd to understand white
 badman 3k+: should've been b4?
 ljkramer 16k : too small
 badman 3k+: i mean regarding d2
 justarrow 6d?: he managed to complicate a very good game for him :)
]
;B[gi]BL[173]C[
 fulgrim 1d : b4 first
]
;W[fh]WL[1564]
;B[hi]BL[115]
;W[od]WL[1559]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: Is white still ahead?
 Alingo 5k+: wihte resign
 pilgrim 2d+: why would white resign this game?
 Lukan 5d?: does o16 work?
 justarrow 6d?: white should be careful with playing B4 as it may not be really sente...
 ljkramer 16k : to avoid embarassing B with huge defeat
 scurge10 4d?: I think this year we wont lose to romania
 Lukan 5d?: i hope ;)
 pilgrim 2d+: will u play scurge?
 Mithrandir 17k+: What is this Romania Czech  thing going on?
]
;B[nd]BL[502]C[
 scurge10 4d?: no I dont plaz
 scurge10 4d?: thats why we have c hance
 Sur 11k+: this game is part of european team championship, Czechi vs Romania
 Mithrandir 17k+: oh
 Lukan 5d?: o16 probably works, we'll see :)
 pilgrim 2d+: lol...u have some chances because there are so many strong players from us that chose not to play
 pilgrim 2d+: Catalin, Dragos Bajenaru and so on
 pilgrim 2d+: but I still think it is a 50-50 game
]
;W[rd]WL[1434]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: B has a chance for some territory in the UL
 scurge10 4d?: cute
 ljkramer 16k : 1 only with sente, Mith
 ljkramer 16k : 2 not much more than he already has
 Mithrandir 17k+: Starting with E17, he could connect with G13
]
;B[qd]BL[347]C[
 scurge10 4d?: O.o I d play this one too :D
 ljkramer 16k : 3 picture how that would look if W f14
 Laman 13k : and why is it so that strong Romanians don't want to play?
 Laman 13k : (of course, besides those strong Romanians who do play)
 ljkramer 16k : What do you think Cornel is?
 Laman 13k : see previous post
 scurge10 4d?: I am not sure if cornel is a "what" :D
 Mithrandir 17k+: B could start with F13 and threaten  the  F12 group.
 pilgrim 2d+: personal reasons I guess
 LeT 2d : maybe they arrive later to save Romania from demotion
 pilgrim 2d+: Romania isn't in danger to be demoted
 justarrow 6d?: S17 seems to work for white
 ljkramer 16k : not too small?
 ljkramer 16k : I would have thought r17
]
;W[re]WL[1044]
;B[rc]BL[340]
;W[qc]WL[1032]C[
 Mithrandir 17k+: P17?
]
;B[pc]BL[318]
;W[qf]WL[1015]
;B[sd]BL[278]
;W[se]WL[850]
;B[qb]BL[255]C[
 ljkramer 16k : Watch this, it's a contest between 2 great players
]
;W[sc]WL[847]C[
 badman 3k+: who's flashback?
]
;B[dg]BL[229]C[
 Laman 13k : Jan Simara 6d
 scurge10 4d?: demon from czech republic :)
]
;W[fg]WL[819]
;B[ch]BL[224]C[
 ljkramer 16k : IGS thinks he's 7d
]
;W[dj]WL[773]C[
 Laman 13k : yeah, 6d is his egf rank
]
;B[ei]BL[168]
;W[fi]WL[754]
;B[fk]BL[91]
;W[bh]WL[743]
;B[dh]BL[87]
;W[ej]WL[668]
;B[fj]BL[83]
;W[bg]WL[645]C[
 Laman 13k : come on, there's no time
]
;B[gd]BL[64]
;W[fd]WL[624]
;B[fc]BL[56]C[
 justarrow 6d?: B resignes soon anyway
]
;W[fe]WL[530]
;B[gb]BL[50]C[
 ljkramer 16k : ko fight?
]
;W[hc]WL[435]
;B[ec]BL[49]C[
 badman 3k+: nope
]
;W[bp]WL[419]
;B[gr]BL[47]C[
 LeT 2d : time to count
]
;W[ld]WL[382]
;B[oc]BL[40]C[
 Alingo 5k+: W resign
]
;W[fm]WL[324]
;B[gl]BL[30]C[
 badman 3k+: -5.5 komi
 pilgrim 2d+: komi is 6.5
 Lukan 5d?: komi is wrong..
]
;W[lc]WL[289]
;B[hb]BL[26]C[
 badman 3k+: then i'd say game is close
]
;W[hd]WL[251]
;B[mb]BL[24]C[
 ljkramer 16k : Komi might reflect 2 stone rank difference
 Morziloeil 10k?: D14?
]
;W[df]WL[197]
;B[ef]BL[22]
;W[cf]WL[196]
;B[ee]BL[21]
;W[eg]WL[195]
;B[ff]BL[17]
;W[gf]WL[194]
;B[om]BL[12]
;W[on]WL[184]C[
 Lukan 5d?: there is no difference in their ranks...
 LeT 2d : n18 was bad?
]
;B[lg]BL[464]
;W[kg]WL[177]
;B[lf]BL[454]C[
 justarrow 6d?: white might win even with the -5.5 komi...
]
;W[ar]WL[120]C[
 pilgrim 2d+: yeah
]
;B[eq]BL[439]
;W[fn]WL[96]C[
 badman 3k+: w seems comfortably ahead
]
;B[ke]BL[389]
;W[hr]WL[77]
;B[es]BL[366]
;W[mi]WL[578]
;B[nf]BL[281]
;W[ni]WL[567]
;B[nh]BL[278]
;W[nk]WL[565]
;B[ok]BL[275]
;W[mj]WL[565]
;B[oj]BL[257]
;W[ib]WL[564]
;B[ie]BL[228]
;W[ce]WL[559]
;B[cd]BL[219]
;W[rb]WL[552]
;B[sb]BL[67]
;W[qc]WL[550]
;B[id]BL[64]
;W[ic]WL[546]
;B[rc]BL[63]
;W[sa]WL[542]
;B[qc]BL[60]
;W[mr]WL[478]
;B[he]BL[39]
;W[ge]WL[475]
;B[kb]BL[24]
;W[lb]WL[472]
;B[la]BL[23]
;W[jd]WL[466]
;B[je]BL[22]C[
 justarrow 6d?: F8
]
;W[oe]WL[411];

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