
(;GM[1]FF[4]ST[0]AP[GOWrite:3.2.0]SZ[19]CA[UTF-8]RE[W+R ]GN[BigOak-gerushka(B) IGS]RU[Japanese]WT[Netherlands]PB[Reem Ben David]NB[33]OT[25/600 Canadian ]TM[1\:00\:00]RR[Normal]PM[2]PC[IGS\: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]BT[Israel]US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]BR[5d]FG[259:]PW[Michiel Eijkhout]EV[PGETC]WR[6d]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2023]KM[6.500000]RO[3]NW[33]DT[2023-12-06 ]
;BL[3596.0]B[qd]
;W[dp]WL[3555.0]
;BL[3594.0]B[cd]
;W[qq]WL[3551.0]
;BL[3588.0]B[cn]
;W[ed]WL[3539.0]
;BL[3539.0]B[cq]
;W[df]WL[3513.0]
;BL[3524.0]B[dq]
;W[oc]WL[3506.0]
;BL[3458.0]B[jc]
;W[lc]WL[3463.0]
;BL[3351.0]B[pc]
;W[od]WL[3455.0]
;BL[3349.0]B[pf]
;W[qh]WL[3380.0]
;BL[3325.0]B[qg]
;W[ph]WL[3375.0]
;BL[3317.0]B[nf]
;W[le]C[hvk3 2d?\: K15
hvk3 2d?\: 4K]WL[3346.0]
;BL[2942.0]B[je]
;W[lg]WL[3334.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: aggressive!
hvk3 2d?\: 14 B 15B
OferZivo 6d+\: interesting approach for keeping the lead
hvk3 2d?\: 4K]BL[2938.0]B[mh]
;W[hc]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: who has the lead?
Zaphodius 6d?\: I would not play N12 - I would play G17
OferZivo 6d+\: I agree
hvk3 2d?\: Yes Ram is trying to play it safe here
OferZivo 6d+\: that way I think b has a better position
hvk3 2d?\: 14B ×× 12B
Zaphodius 6d?\: Not sure
Zaphodius 6d?\: Probably even]WL[3206.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: I don't like this development for B
hvk3 2d?\: This move calls for a fight
Zaphodius 6d?\: whatever]BL[2676.0]B[pk]
;W[oj]WL[3110.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: P10 is most normal
hvk3 2d?\: OK]BL[2665.0]B[jg]
;W[lh]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: N12 next
Zaphodius 6d?\: and B N11 and W P9]WL[3084.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: If Laban would play 13K, he would do well
hvk3 2d?\: ?
hvk3 2d?\: 12O
hvk3 2d?\: 9P]BL[2634.0]B[mj]
;W[mg]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: N13 looks slack
Zaphodius 6d?\: It gives B the opportunity to play P9
hvk3 2d?\: OK 9P]WL[2948.0]
;BL[2575.0]B[ok]
;W[ng]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: o13 is really slack
hvk3 2d?\: YES
Zaphodius 6d?\: I would play at Q6 or so
hvk3 2d?\: 3P
Zaphodius 6d?\: Still, W has a steady style
Zaphodius 6d?\: I have a more fighty and thinner style]WL[2936.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: I feel a good game for black
Zaphodius 6d?\: nah
Zaphodius 6d?\: W Q6 and it's dead even]BL[2456.0]B[np]
;W[qn]WL[2907.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: Because I am more agressive, I would play R6 at Q6
hvk3 2d?\: 17 H slow move white]BL[2421.0]B[jp]
;W[ji]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: no, H17 was good
Zaphodius 6d?\: I would play J14/K14 bevore playing K11
hvk3 2d?\: I think it was slow
hvk3 2d?\: 14G?
Zaphodius 6d?\: That's fine - you are free to think whatever you want.
Zaphodius 6d?\: H17 takes away B's base and that's good enough
Zaphodius 6d?\: there was no really urgent move at that moment - so, it's as good as it gets.
hvk3 2d?\: AL G17
Zaphodius 6d?\: W just wants to get sente and make a bit of profit at the top. After that, he should want to play P6 or so.
hvk3 2d?\: L11 GG
Zaphodius 6d?\: G17 is a good move
Zaphodius 6d?\: L11 is complicated]WL[2879.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: What now
hvk3 2d?\: 10K
Zaphodius 6d?\: B G17 is a common tesuji to make a light shape. To find that spot you must be either a 5d+ or you just use AI.
Zaphodius 6d?\: I think J10 is a more human move]BL[2045.0]B[ii]
;W[ij]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: because if B now crosscuts, he must be able to read extremely complicated stuff starting with G17.
Zaphodius 6d?\: I guess, he needs to be 6d+ to read that.
Zaphodius 6d?\: A normal player would now play H11 or J12. But J11 is slow
hvk3 2d?\: 10 K
Zaphodius 6d?\: Why do I know what you are going to say hvk3?
Zaphodius 6d?\: A normal HUMAN player would play H11 I think
Zaphodius 6d?\: Almost anybody who plays K10 now uses an AI.
gigago 6d \: my 2 cents\: O13 has made white exquisitely thick in this area
hvk3 2d?\: hahaha I'm playing pretty close to them until now and you were right that 17H was a good move not AL but still ok
Zaphodius 6d?\: O13 is very thick. It's not my style but it is BigOak's style.
hvk3 2d?\: I downloaded the software that will not be able to detect the transport greater than 0.8
gigago 6d \: I kinda like it. w has lots of possibilities to start shooting at b weaknesses]WL[2713.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: hvk3, I actually play Go, you know.
hvk3 2d?\: What is the order of moves you do after 10 K.?
hvk3 2d?\: B]BL[1587.0]B[ih]
;W[jj]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: after K10, White would split, e.g. with J12 and connect at K12. But the point is that B must have a tesuji to settle his group at K17..
Zaphodius 6d?\: That tesuji is G17 - but to make a perfect decision about that, you have to be 9p or AI.
hvk3 2d?\: OK YES 17G
Zaphodius 6d?\: White is very thick in the center now and if he gets sente to play P6, White has a good game, I think
hvk3 2d?\: It's still equal
Zaphodius 6d?\: but how do you judge that?
Zaphodius 6d?\: AI can tell you but that's totally meaningless.
hvk3 2d?\: Second move I think is 12C
Zaphodius 6d?\: C12 is not a shape I recognize.
hvk3 2d?\: I am working on the accuracy of your move
Zaphodius 6d?\: As a human I, with W I want to peep at J14 and I want to jump to P6
Zaphodius 6d?\: As B I want to prevent those two moves
hvk3 2d?\: I don't care if I win or lose more than my bread and be the closest to al
hvk3 2d?\: *It doesn't matter to me to win or lose more to the accuracy of my move and to be the closest to al
Zaphodius 6d?\: Somebody who plays J12 has some inner logic and would play H10 or so next
Zaphodius 6d?\: But maybe G11 or even D12
Zaphodius 6d?\: Or, if they think they are behind, the may want to go wild and play Q6 or so
hvk3 2d?\: D12 GG
Zaphodius 6d?\: But B is taking too much time]WL[2621.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: The game is not complicated yet.
Zaphodius 6d?\: M11 is not to the point
hvk3 2d?\: Always remember the 17H move and if not then 12C/d
Zaphodius 6d?\: Without any hesitation I would jump to G10 now
hvk3 2d?\: yes g10
hvk3 2d?\: 15h
Zaphodius 6d?\: of course. Black's normale move would be at H10 (that is consistent with J12).
Zaphodius 6d?\: H15 is risky]BL[935.0]B[li]
;W[gj]C[hvk3 2d?\: ok
Zaphodius 6d?\: Now W has the initiative
Zaphodius 6d?\: B has to struggle for life now
hvk3 2d?\: 17g?
Zaphodius 6d?\: G17 does not work any longer, I think
hvk3 2d?\: 17f
Zaphodius 6d?\: Black G17 means that he is willing to give up the stones on the right.]WL[2476.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: However, after the extra investments at J12, they cannot afford to sacrifice.
Zaphodius 6d?\: F11 is a great move I think
hvk3 2d?\: 17G move they won't play it]BL[844.0]B[fi]
;W[gi]WL[2413.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: 13H
Zaphodius 6d?\: Not G17 because it is too late
hvk3 2d?\: 14J
hvk3 2d?\: It is clear that 17 G
Zaphodius 6d?\: I like F12, B E12, W G12, because W D14 is exactly at the vital point.
hvk3 2d?\: It's clear a17 G is too far behind
Zaphodius 6d?\: But it is also very shapr and therefore risky
Zaphodius 6d?\: BigOak does not like to take risks.]BL[842.0]B[fg]
;W[fh]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: I have known BigOak for about 45 years...
hvk3 2d?\: OK
Zaphodius 6d?\: (and I still don\;t know him???)]WL[2187.0]
;BL[819.0]B[eh]
;W[gh]WL[2184.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: Well, he knows shape.
Zaphodius 6d?\: So this is the risk
hvk3 2d?\: Who you don't know me you know but she was weaker
Zaphodius 6d?\: He is quite good at reading and he has much more time than B.
Zaphodius 6d?\: I know after a few moves how strong somebody is.
hvk3 2d?\: ××ª× ××××¨ ×××ª× ××ª× ××©××§×× ××§×¨×××
hvk3 2d?\: You know him, you play reading
Zaphodius 6d?\: W has no other move than G15 and it's pointless to think now.
Zaphodius 6d?\: I have played BigOak many times too
Zaphodius 6d?\: In real life.
hvk3 2d?\: Replied Ram does not play from Israel, he is in the sand
hvk3 2d?\: 15D ?]BL[816.0]B[ee]
;W[de]WL[1798.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: oops, D15 of course]BL[812.0]B[dd]
;W[ef]WL[1791.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: ???]BL[809.0]B[fe]
;W[ff]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: E14 is terrible
hvk3 2d?\: Does not matteroops, D15 of course
Zaphodius 6d?\: If B plays G15 now, W E17 can manage
hvk3 2d?\: Yes it makes sense that he would play 15G
Zaphodius 6d?\: And now it becomes apparent W should have played J14 a long time ago
hvk3 2d?\: This serves Black a turn]WL[1787.0]
;BL[486.0]B[fd]
;W[ge]WL[1760.0]
;BL[485.0]B[fc]
;W[hd]WL[1732.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: O6 is the right direction. But B is behind
Zaphodius 6d?\: So I would be more active, e.g. by playing Q6]BL[466.0]B[nn]
;W[hq]WL[1596.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: A bit strange of a black factor
Zaphodius 6d?\: why think now?]BL[443.0]B[gb]
;W[hb]C[Zaphodius 6d?\: there is a bit of aji when B cuts at G14.
Zaphodius 6d?\: Maybe B should play at Q3 - at least that's kind of normal
gigago 6d \: well well - I can't turn my back even for a moment]WL[1516.0]
;C[Zaphodius 6d?\: H9 is probably sente
Zaphodius 6d?\: B14 is huge
Zaphodius 6d?\: and it threatens G14
Zaphodius 6d?\: W had better play C13 or better yet, D12]BL[296.0]B[bf]
;W[ch]C[gigago 6d \: whispering moves in his ear is not allowed]WL[1396.0]
;C[gigago 6d \: this does leave some aji, right?]BL[193.0]B[ho]
;W[jr]C[gigago 6d \: but b cannot cut right away bc it's a ladder]WL[1359.0]
;C[hvk3 2d?\: Move 41 was a mistake and let white start to lead]BL[130.0]B[gq]
;W[gp]WL[1102.0]
;BL[128.0]B[hp]
;W[fq]WL[1100.0]
;BL[128.0]B[gr]
;W[fr]WL[1099.0]
;BL[126.0]B[fp]
;W[go]WL[1096.0]
;BL[125.0]B[hr]
;W[iq]WL[1094.0]
;BL[124.0]B[gn]
;W[fo]WL[1082.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: surprising that w missed this]BL[123.0]B[ep]
;W[fn]WL[831.0];BL[121.0]B[fm];W[hn]WL[799.0];BL[92.0]B[gm];W[ip]WL[794.0];BL[91.0]B[io];W[jo]WL[792.0];BL[90.0]B[in];W[jn]WL[790.0];BL[89.0]B[im];W[kp]WL[788.0];BL[72.0]B[jm];W[ir]WL[765.0];BL[70.0]B[eq]
;W[hs]C[OferZivo 6d+\: aaaaahhhh
gigago 6d \: huh
hvk3 2d?\: ?
gigago 6d \: that's a santa claus present
gigago 6d \: b is very polite
OferZivo 6d+\: still some slight chance?]WL[761.0]
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