
(;ST[0]FF[4]SZ[19]GM[1]CA[UTF-8]AP[GOWrite:3.2.0]GN[valerii-iHoldKiesi(B) IGS]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET ]WR[6d]TM[3600]C[valerii 5d?\: 91 HI
valerii 5d?\: 91 Have a nice game
iHoldKiesi 2d+\: 91 hello
iHoldKiesi 2d+\: 91 have a nice game!]US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]FG[259:]RO[7]NW[33]EV[Pandanat Go European Team Championships]RU[Japanese]NB[30]RR[Normal]OT[5x30 Byo-yomi ]BT[Israel]BR[4d]RE[B+R ]PM[2]PC[IGS\: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2023-03-27 ]PB[Tal Michaeli]WT[Ukraine]KM[6.500000]PW[Valerii Krushelnytskyi]
;BL[3583.0]B[pd]
;W[dp]WL[3599.0]
;BL[3578.0]B[pq]
;W[dc]WL[3597.0]
;BL[3562.0]B[ce]
;W[fd]WL[3590.0]
;BL[3532.0]B[ch]
;W[qo]WL[3586.0]
;BL[3530.0]B[op]
;W[pk]WL[3584.0]
;BL[3516.0]B[cq]
;W[cp]WL[3555.0]
;BL[3509.0]B[dq]
;W[ep]WL[3555.0]
;BL[3473.0]B[fr]
;W[cd]WL[3550.0]
;BL[3465.0]B[dl]
;W[be]WL[3527.0]
;BL[3459.0]B[gq]
;W[gp]WL[3493.0]
;BL[3401.0]B[hp]
;W[fq]WL[3490.0]
;BL[3353.0]B[hr]
;W[ho]WL[3488.0]
;BL[3347.0]B[ip]
;W[bq]WL[3485.0]
;BL[3345.0]B[br]
;W[bo]WL[3485.0]
;BL[3300.0]B[aq]
;W[dk]WL[3484.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: feels wrong
OferZivo 6d+\: but he played it so confidently...
Hvk5 2d?\: Ofer Tomer to them, this is not from an ordinary room
OferZivo 6d+\: c9 seems natural
Hvk5 2d?\: e9?
OferZivo 6d+\: hvk, I think it's ok]
;BL[3019.0]B[ck]
;W[cj]WL[3477.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: maybe e9, but it seems harder to me
Hvk5 2d?\: yes
OferZivo 6d+\: I like b8 now
Hvk5 2d?\: 10b]
;BL[2903.0]B[dj]
;W[ek]WL[3474.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: this is what w wanted
nadav 5k?\: strange w played this way
nadav 5k?\: b i mean
OferZivo 6d+\: at least b can get sente with the normal continuation, but looks good for w locally]
;BL[2708.0]B[cl]
;W[di]WL[3471.0]
;BL[2708.0]B[bj]
;W[ej]WL[3470.0]C[nadav 5k?\: i was about to say maybe b8
nadav 5k?\: but b played c8
Hvk5 2d?\: Tal thought too much and flowed a little more]
;C[nadav 5k?\: g6 seems proper]BL[2672.0]B[fm]
;W[ap]WL[3365.0]
;BL[2655.0]B[bp]
;W[el]WL[3363.0]
;BL[2651.0]B[em]
;W[bq]WL[3362.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: d12?]
;BL[2580.0]B[go]
;W[gn]WL[3341.0]
;BL[2579.0]B[fo]
;W[fn]WL[3324.0]
;BL[2578.0]B[hn]
;W[gm]WL[3321.0]
;BL[2541.0]B[en]
;W[eo]WL[3318.0]
;BL[2539.0]B[io]
;W[fp]WL[3318.0]
;BL[2538.0]B[ho]
;W[gl]WL[3317.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: seems like it's more about getting a nice position than the corner
OferZivo 6d+\: interesting development
nadav 5k?\: seems good for black no?]BL[2523.0]B[cn]
;W[ar]WL[3230.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: yeah. I think w could've fought the ko
nadav 5k?\: w is looking at a different ko
OferZivo 6d+\: b11?
nadav 5k?\: w will have ko threats in the corner and b has with the push and cut]
;BL[2348.0]B[dr]
;W[bn]WL[3227.0]C[Hvk5 2d?\: n2]
;BL[2298.0]B[fl]
;W[gk]WL[3224.0]
;BL[2283.0]B[fk]
;W[fj]WL[3214.0]
;BL[2282.0]B[gj]
;W[il]WL[3212.0]
;BL[2278.0]B[hj]
;W[ik]WL[3211.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: not so easy for w to win that ko, I think
Hvk5 2d?\: f11?
OferZivo 6d+\: but b would have to fight it
nadav 5k?\: b used all the threats
Hvk5 2d?\: b7
OferZivo 6d+\: oh, b7 just doesn't work
OferZivo 6d+\: no ko
OferZivo 6d+\: but c11 can change it
nadav 5k?\: not sure I see it
OferZivo 6d+\: b7 a6 c5 d6 eventually cut and squeeze
Hvk5 2d?\: 11f
nadav 5k?\: ok nice
OferZivo 6d+\: at least b7 doesn't make w live]
;BL[1867.0]B[ci]
;W[bm]WL[3200.0]
;C[nadav 5k?\: but anyway it would have been ko]BL[1820.0]B[dm]
;W[eg]WL[3188.0]C[nadav 5k?\: becasue b could always abandon your squeese var
nadav 5k?\: and w would only get bad exchanges
nadav 5k?\: w is brave
nadav 5k?\: tough read
nadav 5k?\: wow rime difference
nadav 5k?\: time*
nadav 5k?\: w played super fast
OferZivo 6d+\: still it's scary]
;BL[1597.0]B[co]
;W[bs]WL[3184.0]
;BL[1594.0]B[cr]
;W[bl]WL[3180.0]
;BL[1592.0]B[bk]
;W[al]WL[3150.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: and there's a ko involved
OferZivo 6d+\: e12 is interesting
OferZivo 6d+\: oh, maybe not]
;BL[1251.0]B[ef]
;W[dg]WL[3141.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: ok, I think b can live clean now, at least]BL[1188.0]B[cg]
;W[df]WL[3056.0]
;BL[1183.0]B[cf]
;W[de]WL[3054.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: still I wonder if Tal will insist on going after the center group or just live]BL[1180.0]B[bf]
;W[an]WL[3029.0]
;BL[1173.0]B[ij]
;W[kk]WL[3015.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: ok.. life in sente is nice I guess]
;BL[1150.0]B[jj]
;W[ll]WL[3013.0]
;BL[1149.0]B[li]
;W[bd]WL[3011.0]
;BL[1146.0]B[bh]
;W[nc]WL[2992.0]
;BL[1126.0]B[km]
;W[kl]WL[2989.0]C[nadav 5k?\: p9 lets go
OferZivo 6d+\: that was my thought too
OferZivo 6d+\: not sure how great is it though
nadav 5k?\: could be ok to prepare more
OferZivo 6d+\: I think w is ahead by komi at least
OferZivo 6d+\: maybe p8?..
nadav 5k?\: q6 is classic but maybe too slow now]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: eventually we want n9, right?
OferZivo 6d+\: I think p8 has a nicer relationship with it]BL[806.0]B[mk]
;W[ml]WL[2948.0]
;BL[805.0]B[nl]
;W[nk]WL[2932.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: I like this for Tal]BL[804.0]B[ok]
;W[nj]WL[2834.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: w can't afford to just survive, I think
nadav 5k?\: or just die
OferZivo 6d+\: lol, true
Hvk5 2d?\: It feels good for me to dawn to Mrs. It is adjacent to this position
OferZivo 6d+\: what do you think of b12 btw? couldn't b live in a nicer way?]BL[798.0]B[mj]
;W[nm]WL[2692.0]
;C[nadav 5k?\: what way?]BL[797.0]B[ol]
;W[om]WL[2676.0]C[nadav 5k?\: i think b12 is only move
Wade 6d?\: Tal*]
;BL[771.0]B[pl]
;W[oj]WL[2641.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: ?]
;C[nadav 5k?\: yay the fight is in tal's backyard]BL[761.0]B[pj]
;W[pm]WL[2621.0]
;BL[745.0]B[ql]
;W[pi]WL[2610.0]
;BL[744.0]B[qj]
;W[mo]WL[2590.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: r7
nadav 5k?\: nice shape..]
;BL[712.0]B[nh]
;W[mq]WL[2584.0]
;BL[619.0]B[qm]
;W[oo]WL[2505.0]
;BL[606.0]B[np]
;W[mp]WL[2501.0]
;BL[602.0]B[qp]
;W[ro]WL[2498.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: o5 first? then defend at o2]
;BL[484.0]B[rp]
;W[or]WL[2489.0]
;BL[482.0]B[pr]
;W[oq]WL[2487.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: the ko is no good, I think
OferZivo 6d+\: but maybe tenuki?...
OferZivo 6d+\: L6?
nadav 5k?\: still w is attackable
OferZivo 6d+\: yeah...
OferZivo 6d+\: m2?
nadav 5k?\: no p1 hane is important to keep
OferZivo 6d+\: not if he's gonna defend the corner
nadav 5k?\: hope not
Hvk5 2d?\: 2s?
OferZivo 6d+\: wK6 should be taken into account
OferZivo 6d+\: time to be faster
OferZivo 6d+\: hard to guess what's he thinking
OferZivo 6d+\: maybe recalling all the carpenter's square variations]
;BL[444.0]B[os]
;W[mr]WL[2462.0]
;BL[415.0]B[nd]
;W[md]WL[2432.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: oh, I thought about this move]BL[414.0]B[ne]
;W[pc]WL[2425.0]
;BL[413.0]B[qc]
;W[oc]WL[2423.0]
;C[nadav 5k?\: w can n15]BL[411.0]B[qd]
;W[me]WL[2373.0]C[nadav 5k?\: invading is too difficult
OferZivo 6d+\: reducing might be enough]
;BL[349.0]B[ie]
;W[nf]WL[2350.0]
;BL[267.0]B[mf]
;W[lf]WL[2340.0]
;C[nadav 5k?\: tal should speed up
OferZivo 6d+\: might be simple soon
OferZivo 6d+\: hopefully
Hvk5 2d?\: Tal I think this game is a good game
nadav 5k?\: tal def leads on points
OferZivo 6d+\: right side is huge if w can't do anything there
OferZivo 6d+\: maybe Tal can afford a corner loss if he cuts and takes the 2 stones
Wade 6d?\: my problem is with the aji of r11 and the cut
Wade 6d?\: i feel like w gets to defend the n17 cut he will have to add at least 1 more move there
nadav 5k?\: annoying that the chat is deleated if i'm not logged in all the tome
nadav 5k?\: time*
Wade 6d?\: haha, welcome to pandanet ^^
Hvk5 2d?\: ???
OferZivo 6d+\: I hope Tal is using this time well
OferZivo 6d+\: I think w is considering the trade
nadav 5k?\: which one?
nadav 5k?\: p16?
Hvk5 2d?\: Ofer what was playing as a white man
Hvk5 2d?\: ?
OferZivo 6d+\: probably will start with R11 and will the consider to cut right away
OferZivo 6d+\: then*
OferZivo 6d+\: yeah, p16
OferZivo 6d+\: but probably r11 will be answered with s10
OferZivo 6d+\: and not sure a trade is worth it
OferZivo 6d+\: or if it works]BL[266.0]B[mg]
;W[jf]WL[1193.0]
;BL[225.0]B[if]
;W[je]WL[1181.0]
;C[nadav 5k?\: is this sente?
nadav 5k?\: i doubt ir
nadav 5k?\: it
OferZivo 6d+\: I like this move
Hvk5 2d?\: gg]BL[224.0]B[fi]
;W[ig]WL[964.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: w can't threaten the cut without answering it]
;BL[208.0]B[hg];W[hh]WL[963.0];BL[198.0]B[ih];W[jg]WL[961.0];BL[190.0]B[gg]
;W[ei]WL[830.0]C[nadav 5k?\: wow
OferZivo 6d+\: he had to
nadav 5k?\: overplay?]
;C[nadav 5k?\: pointswise?
nadav 5k?\: oh]BL[164.0]B[jh]
;W[od]WL[812.0];BL[163.0]B[oe];W[pe]WL[812.0];BL[163.0]B[of];W[qb]WL[812.0];BL[162.0]B[rb]
;W[pa]WL[809.0]C[nadav 5k?\: tal answered passively]
;BL[123.0]B[pf];W[id]WL[806.0];BL[120.0]B[ge];W[hd]WL[790.0]
;C[OferZivo 6d+\: interesting stuff]BL[99.0]B[mc]
;W[ra]WL[750.0]C[nadav 5k?\: hmm]
;BL[70.0]B[lc];W[kd]WL[749.0];BL[69.0]B[sb];W[rc]WL[747.0];BL[68.0]B[rd];W[mb]WL[736.0]
;C[Hvk5 2d?\: ko?]BL[66.0]B[lb]
;W[ma]WL[715.0];BL[42.0]B[po];W[pn]WL[712.0];BL[600.0]B[pp]
;W[jq]WL[686.0]C[OferZivo 6d+\: \:0
nadav 5k?\: wow indeed
OferZivo 6d+\: the cut is so big
nadav 5k?\: reverse gote
OferZivo 6d+\: at least 11 points
Wade 6d?\: k3 can be as big as r6
Wade 6d?\: cant*
OferZivo 6d+\: easy cut
nadav 5k?\: chance to finish the game
OferZivo 6d+\: it will also help the next cut
nadav 5k?\: right
OferZivo 6d+\: I think b has a 20 point lead after that
nadav 5k?\: did w think b is threatend?]
;C[Wade 6d?\: c1 is tricky but b got an eye there if w ataris after e3 defending the wedge
Hvk5 2d?\: Who is being led here? ?]BL[326.0]B[qn]
;W[gs]WL[616.0]C[nadav 5k?\: insane swing]
;BL[322.0]B[fs]
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